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00:00:00.000 -- Did everybody have a good lunch? Yes.
00:00:09.000 -- As I had hoped, I'm really happy.
00:00:14.000 -- I'm very happy that people got the chance for a little one-on-one lunch break time.
00:00:18.000 -- I always think that's beneficial.
00:00:21.000 -- So welcome back.
00:00:23.000 -- I just have a couple more little, you're going to laugh at how stupid these things are, but it's important stuff to pick up.
00:00:31.000 -- And after that, then we can have some more discussion about, you know, what we were talking about right before lunch of, what are we actually going to do and how are we going to do that? So it's going to be kind of your show from here.
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00:00:46.000 -- What's the second? Okay.
00:00:48.000 -- I started with that arrow.
00:00:49.000 -- What is it saying? Do you know how to do it? Can you hear how to do it? Can you hear how to do it? See, if you're trying to make sure everyone in Zoom can hear it.
00:00:58.000 -- Can you hear me now? We have to do this again.
00:01:01.000 -- Good now? Okay.
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00:01:05.000 -- And can you test your mic? Test test? For Zoom people, can you hear me? Okay.
00:01:10.000 -- We should be good now.
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00:01:12.000 -- And which is on his way back? Okay.
00:01:14.000 -- So Eric, I fancy to the next slide.
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00:01:39.000 -- So this is important to some people.
00:01:42.000 -- So again, this is a direction that we were given by the legislation.
00:01:49.000 -- So legislators and remember there will be four of them that are non-voting members.
00:01:55.000 -- They get reimbursed to travel to these meetings through the legislative process.
00:02:00.000 -- So they have their own deal.
00:02:02.000 -- If you're here representing, if you're an elected official or representing a government agency or representing your employer or representing an organization, then you are not eligible for a travel reimbursement.
00:02:17.000 -- But if you are not either of those other things, so kind of like if you're a citizen representative, then you are eligible for a reimbursement.
00:02:30.000 -- We've got forms in a process to do that.
00:02:33.000 -- So rather than call everybody out on whether you get paid to do this or not.
00:02:41.000 -- If you get reimbursement or not and you want to figure out if you do and how you do it, then just meet with staff here and we can get together with you and make sure that we're all set for that.
00:02:55.000 -- Okay.
00:02:58.000 -- Next steps I think is what I have been.
00:03:02.000 -- So I had anticipated that, as I said, Governor's Office thinks that the rest of their appointments will be done probably in September.
00:03:15.000 -- So I had anticipated that the next meeting might be in September or October.
00:03:21.000 -- But once again, that will be up to you to the extent that you all want to drive that.
00:03:29.000 -- Or if you want to give it to staff and you know, someone will say, and you guys set up the meeting and the location will be here to help, but that's kind of driven by you when we're ready.
00:03:40.000 -- We've got some more information to give you for your binder.
00:03:45.000 -- So we'll keep sending that and as we go through this process, we'll keep updating that.
00:03:50.000 -- But I think reading through all of the past information, so you've got a good feeling of what we already know and what's been out there.
00:03:58.000 -- And then look through the charter from the CAC group or charters of other groups or other kinds of work rules or anything like that.
00:04:09.000 -- So you get an idea of what you want to talk about, what you want to bring to the table when it comes to creating your own work rules.
00:04:19.000 -- And then the only thing I other thing I wanted to say right before lunch we were talking about consultants and the budget that comes to the table, and the budget that goes along with that.
00:04:29.000 -- But I want you to be aware, excuse me, that there are several subject matter experts that want to come and talk to you that are not, you know, people that we have to pay for, they're not consultants or anything like that.
00:04:46.000 -- Like for example, there is a group within Wash.That's working on a new high speed rail proposal that will go from Vancouver BC to Eugene, basically along the I5 corridor.
00:05:00.000 -- They know that their work will be connecting with the work of this group.
00:05:05.000 -- And so they're ready to come and make a presentation to this group whenever you're ready to talk to them.
00:05:13.000 -- Similarly, people at JBLM, that's straight baseloads from a corridor that have concerns about airspace in their area.
00:05:25.000 -- They would like to come and talk to the group about military airspace and well throughout Washington state.
00:05:34.000 -- I've talked with FAA about, you know, we probably want to have you come and talk to the group.
00:05:42.000 -- Excuse me, about, you know, questions about FAA funding or what is FAA going to do if we get to the point that CTACs just not working anymore and those kinds of things.
00:05:56.000 -- So there's a lot of subject matter experts that are out there that you may want to hear from and that want you to hear from them that I think would be a part of future agenda is just hearing from people.
00:06:13.000 -- So it doesn't all have to be paid consultants.
00:06:15.000 -- There's just people out there that want to be involved.
00:06:20.000 -- And there's people that I've talked to who have applied to be on the work group and didn't get appointed by the governor.
00:06:31.000 -- And those people I've said, you know, if you're representing, you know, an airline coalition or, you know, rail users or something like that, there may be an opportunity for you to present to the group as well.
00:06:46.000 -- So I think there's a broad spectrum of other resources that you all can use to kind of inform yourselves.
00:06:56.000 -- So that's what I have.
00:06:58.000 -- That's kind of the end of my list of details that I wanted to share with all of you.
00:07:03.000 -- So this is your meeting now until who is asking me like if you leave, if we finish early, can we leave? We're almost to that point.
00:07:11.000 -- So it seems to me like God said, the powerful word and a point at least an interim chair so that we can still take the rest of our conversation here, a decision making today.
00:07:26.000 -- And I would be happy to be at least the interim chair or co-chair.
00:07:31.000 -- And I'd love to help work on drafting the charter sometime between now and our next meeting.
00:07:38.000 -- That fits what things like.
00:07:41.000 -- Thank you.
00:07:44.000 -- I would say I think, correct.
00:07:46.000 -- I think we should, I'd like to share talk about Robert's Rules of Order, but then I also, I would hope that whoever the chair is would also say, let's maybe out of this existing group, let's find some champions around some of these other things that not everything lies on one person.
00:08:03.000 -- So we could have a champion around the presentation portion.
00:08:07.000 -- We could have a champion around pulling the charter together.
00:08:11.000 -- Just someone that can take the lead on certain things.
00:08:14.000 -- So then by the time we do eventually come back together, it's not no one's filling inundated, we're trying to do all the things.
00:08:21.000 -- I would probably feel more comfortable doing an interim chair until we get a full board to actually have a we're not imposing the new chair on people that aren't even here that are voting members.
00:08:56.000 -- So for an interim, I have no issue with with admin on an interim standpoint to get the ball rolling and get us through this initial period.
00:09:06.000 -- So second that.
00:09:08.000 -- Okay.
00:09:10.000 -- Excuse me, May.
00:09:16.000 -- May as we need to track who is making a motion and do a seconding it for the record.
00:09:25.000 -- Will you please state your name before you make the motion and when you second it.
00:09:31.000 -- Thank you so much.
00:09:32.000 -- But TAFT, my motion is to thank you to have Evan Nordby serve as the temporary.
00:09:45.000 -- Aaron, thank you.
00:09:47.000 -- Interim chair until the full board is seated.
00:09:52.000 -- Or as the second said motion.
00:09:56.000 -- Now we discuss.
00:09:59.000 -- So my discussion is about the interim.
00:10:03.000 -- So we have a time period so far that we don't have a full committee.
00:10:08.000 -- So ours is our interim chairman interim only until we get a full committee or until we get another four members or five members or because it could take time to get a number of members.
00:10:26.000 -- I'm so just look clarity on time period for that interim and then interim maybe become the next meeting.
00:10:38.000 -- Okay.
00:10:41.000 -- Okay.
00:10:42.000 -- This room and go ahead and speak.
00:10:47.000 -- Hold on.
00:10:48.000 -- You're not able to hear.
00:10:50.000 -- You hear the speaker one second.
00:10:53.000 -- You hear her through.
00:10:57.000 -- Can't hear her through the ring though.
00:11:01.000 -- I'm going to have to be based on a calendar.
00:11:05.000 -- I like that.
00:11:09.000 -- Do you need to get off of your.
00:11:13.000 -- Maybe.
00:11:16.000 -- Larry can you speak let me see if it's working for you online.
00:11:19.000 -- Just really quick.
00:11:22.000 -- Yeah we can't hear Larry either.
00:11:26.000 -- Okay we're going to get IT.
00:11:28.000 -- Okay.
00:11:35.000 -- I don't know.
00:11:40.000 -- They're trying to speak but the speaker is coming through something else not this so they can hear everything.
00:11:46.000 -- But we can't hear what they're saying.
00:11:51.000 -- Okay they can't hear everything.
00:11:53.000 -- Oh ask to put the motions in the chat.
00:11:55.000 -- Let me ask.
00:11:57.000 -- Okay let me or comments.
00:11:58.000 -- I'll do that right now.
00:12:00.000 -- Am I trying to vote? Yeah.
00:12:08.000 -- Miss Ruben says she recommends to have Anne continue to be the interim chair.
00:12:19.000 -- I don't know.
00:12:26.000 -- I'm just letting you know what she's saying in the chat.
00:12:30.000 -- I'm waiting for Larry to comment.
00:12:37.000 -- I'm waiting to hear what Larry says.
00:12:44.000 -- Question about Larry please type direct message to me.
00:12:48.000 -- And then I'll relay it to the group.
00:12:51.000 -- Because she's not even been appointed as a non voting member.
00:12:56.000 -- So I don't know.
00:12:59.000 -- Yes.
00:13:02.000 -- Larry wants the motion on the floor to be repeated.
00:13:09.000 -- Can you hear me? Can you hear him Larry? Yes.
00:13:14.000 -- The motion was to have Evan Nordbe serve as the interim chair until we get a full board that can vote on permanent.
00:13:27.000 -- Kind of changed it a little bit but I don't know.
00:13:29.000 -- We haven't really discussed.
00:13:32.000 -- Yeah we're not sure what the end date would be if it's the September meeting or if it's when we get a full board or a partial board.
00:13:40.000 -- We're still kind of debating that.
00:13:43.000 -- Larry says now we have another suggestion to make Anne the interim chair.
00:13:46.000 -- Larry are you saying you make that suggestion as well? No.
00:13:57.000 -- He's just trying to understand what's going on.
00:13:59.000 -- Okay.
00:14:02.000 -- So Larry do you have an opinion on the motion? And we're fixing the audio right now.
00:14:23.000 -- I think discussion can continue.
00:14:25.000 -- There's no reason.
00:14:26.000 -- I think you make a great chair.
00:14:29.000 -- I don't want to do that.
00:14:32.000 -- I just ask for a number two.
00:14:34.000 -- If we do what we're supposed to do eventually we're going to get into a situation where we might not be on the same side of the table as washed out and that's going to make it uncomfortable for you and I don't want to do that to you.
00:14:45.000 -- Okay.
00:14:46.000 -- I think I think that is really kind of a staff to us.
00:14:53.000 -- And I don't think that as much as I believe in Anne and known her so many years I don't believe this is the job that she should have within this group.
00:15:04.000 -- Yes.
00:15:05.000 -- Not very.
00:15:06.000 -- Okay.
00:15:07.000 -- Larry, can you touch me again? Now it's like audio should be fixed.
00:15:13.000 -- You're right.
00:15:14.000 -- Yes.
00:15:15.000 -- Good.
00:15:16.000 -- I'm just trying to touch that.
00:15:19.000 -- Good.
00:15:20.000 -- I'm trying to make sure that we're a real underneath or at the dialogue of the management of the department.
00:15:27.000 -- And should service chair.
00:15:28.000 -- So I just wasn't sure where we were at in the process of our dialogue.
00:15:35.000 -- So we're discussing the motion that was made to establish an interim chair.
00:15:42.000 -- Okay.
00:15:43.000 -- So I wanted to make sure.
00:15:47.000 -- What I would suggest if anyone's amenable to this is that we could time box this.
00:15:54.000 -- And as an example, we could say we're going to establish an interim chair for the next 90 days unless otherwise extended or modified by majority vote of the board members present.
00:16:05.000 -- I would agree with that, especially because if we say we wanted to wait until we had a full never have a full work group.
00:16:14.000 -- Exactly right.
00:16:16.000 -- Yeah.
00:16:17.000 -- Instead of putting on time, can we just push it to the next.
00:16:19.000 -- We wanted to wait until we had a full work group.
00:16:22.000 -- We may never have a full work group.
00:16:25.000 -- Yeah.
00:16:26.000 -- Instead of putting on time, we just push it to the next meeting.
00:16:30.000 -- Yeah.
00:16:31.000 -- Which could be sooner or later just depending.
00:16:34.000 -- Absolutely.
00:16:35.000 -- That's really my name.
00:16:37.000 -- If the voting members present at that time decide.
00:16:42.000 -- I, the amendment to the original motion.
00:16:52.000 -- We have an adopted Robert's rule order.
00:16:55.000 -- We adopted Robert's rules, but not a chair.
00:16:58.000 -- We couldn't do it until we had the chair.
00:17:01.000 -- We had an adopted Robert's rule order.
00:17:04.000 -- We adopted Robert's rule.
00:17:05.000 -- We didn't have a chair.
00:17:06.000 -- We couldn't do it until we had the chair.
00:17:11.000 -- I thought we said.
00:17:12.000 -- Okay.
00:17:13.000 -- So I would like to amend the original motion that the interim chair will remain there until such time as we have our next full in person meeting.
00:17:25.000 -- I would just second.
00:17:29.000 -- It's the end of the meeting or the beginning of the meeting.
00:17:33.000 -- Through the next meeting.
00:17:35.000 -- Until the next one is adopted during the meeting, we might adopt a new chair until a permanent chair is adopted.
00:17:44.000 -- How's that? Exact.
00:17:47.000 -- Right.
00:17:48.000 -- That meeting.
00:17:50.000 -- That's kind of where we got it before.
00:17:54.000 -- Yeah.
00:17:55.000 -- Yeah.
00:17:56.000 -- It was right.
00:17:57.000 -- Yeah.
00:17:58.000 -- The original motion was that it was to an interim chair.
00:18:02.000 -- The clarification was it would remain until the next vote, which left a little open ended.
00:18:10.000 -- So then we started talking about time, which then had us started talking about the next meeting, but we don't have a meeting schedule.
00:18:17.000 -- So it started to get complicated.
00:18:20.000 -- Oh, we know it's going to be hopefully no vote again at the top.
00:18:23.000 -- Yes.
00:18:24.000 -- Yeah.
00:18:25.000 -- So can we just keep it simple? Say interim chair until we vote on it at the next meeting.
00:18:30.000 -- So back to the original.
00:18:32.000 -- Yes.
00:18:33.000 -- Okay.
00:18:34.000 -- No amendment.
00:18:35.000 -- Is that where we are? Yes.
00:18:38.000 -- Okay.
00:18:39.000 -- So we will be back right now.
00:18:40.000 -- Okay.
00:18:41.000 -- Okay.
00:18:42.000 -- So we have the motion to the next person.
00:18:44.000 -- We're going to be appointed as a chair.
00:18:49.000 -- We will remain there until the next meeting adopts the permanent chair.
00:18:52.000 -- Second did the motion.
00:18:54.000 -- And then Horace asked to amend the motion that the interim chair would remain there until the next meeting adopts the permanent chair.
00:19:06.000 -- Second on the amendment.
00:19:12.000 -- I seconded it.
00:19:19.000 -- So all those.
00:19:22.000 -- Any additional discussion? Well, oh, yeah.
00:19:25.000 -- If there is any additional discussion.
00:19:30.000 -- It's all those in favor.
00:19:32.000 -- Yeah, those in favor.
00:19:33.000 -- All those in favor.
00:19:34.000 -- All right.
00:19:35.000 -- All right.
00:19:36.000 -- Opposed? Any Larry and? Larry voted I.
00:19:41.000 -- Okay.
00:19:42.000 -- Miss Rubin, can you turn your mic in vote please? Yes.
00:19:47.000 -- The amendment was so motion passes.
00:19:52.000 -- All right.
00:19:53.000 -- Okay.
00:19:54.000 -- So the amendment was the motion.
00:20:03.000 -- Yes.
00:20:04.000 -- Yeah.
00:20:05.000 -- So we voted on the amendment of a point now in the motion.
00:20:09.000 -- No, that's all done.
00:20:10.000 -- It's done.
00:20:11.000 -- Okay.
00:20:12.000 -- All right.
00:20:13.000 -- Well, I'm going to stay seated here.
00:20:17.000 -- Here, besides notes and things.
00:20:20.000 -- I think we should.
00:20:23.000 -- How do I actually put that key or add on.
00:20:27.000 -- I think that portion of the year and through slides.
00:20:30.000 -- And it written down everything that people want to try to do.
00:20:35.000 -- There's certain headers of your slides.
00:20:37.000 -- You can just draft the charter.
00:20:42.000 -- And a couple other things.
00:20:45.000 -- Okay.
00:20:46.000 -- So.
00:20:47.000 -- So.
00:20:48.000 -- Do you ever have the.
00:20:55.000 -- Have a copy of your agenda.
00:20:57.000 -- Well, look at that box.
00:20:58.000 -- It's there.
00:20:59.000 -- Is there anything that anyone wants to add to that list of things we want to try to accomplish today? I think we're kind of through with today.
00:21:11.000 -- I mean, the point was I think we came that we don't have the people here.
00:21:16.000 -- To make a lot of these decisions and we need to evaluate and get as far as we can.
00:21:23.000 -- And then come back at the next meeting and do all this stuff when hopefully we have the rest of the members and their up to speed on what's going on.
00:21:35.000 -- So earlier we talked about.
00:21:39.000 -- quite a whole lot of different we're thinking about reporting about moving towards those and visualizations and dialog you can move what we're talking about from those.
00:22:01.100 -- to go after because some of them will be Eastern Washington, some will be West and we don't know.
00:22:06.300 -- Oh, is that separate from the non voting? Well, the non voting, it's kind of both.
00:22:13.100 -- But the voting members, they wanted us to recruit as well, but we don't know who.
00:22:19.100 -- And if we actually, why do we? Who do we say? I know that there's somebody who was interested in being on this board that put in an application and then I also put in their name, but they're not on yet for whatever reason.
00:22:34.700 -- I don't know who actually decides those things.
00:22:36.700 -- So I guess that's the question is that as we, between now and the next meeting, as people come to mind, do we send those where to staff? I'm going to request a staff in Double Down with Anne about getting that list over to us of the positions that are open and how many applicants have been per so far.
00:23:00.700 -- And I know that has come from the governor's office.
00:23:02.700 -- So, yeah, I'm happy to be the person and say, hey, can y'all get that over to us so that we can finish up and recruit.
00:23:08.700 -- So that's one.
00:23:09.700 -- And I think, I do think for the other part, which is inviting non voting members, we could probably start having that conversation now.
00:23:17.700 -- And I'm happy to champion that portion of it just to get the ball rolling.
00:23:26.700 -- And I did take a picture of the non voting thing, but I don't know if this is a binder, but if we can bring that back up, that would be great.
00:23:36.700 -- I think there's a pretty obvious non voting number.
00:23:39.700 -- So, we can get this in order to the house and the setting of conferences and ask back to their selections.
00:23:46.700 -- Department of Commerce, it sounded like there was a person in the designation of the Department of Commerce, who's kind of the obvious choice.
00:23:53.700 -- So, some of those things in my bed without camera.
00:23:55.700 -- I would.
00:23:56.700 -- Yeah.
00:24:01.700 -- I was wondering what else was I working with.
00:24:03.700 -- Are we doing first names? Are we doing last names? My core room is always Mr.
00:24:06.700 -- and Mrs.
00:24:06.700 -- Last name.
00:24:10.700 -- I think you say, well, I'm sure we're about practicing that.
00:24:13.700 -- That gets a reaction.
00:24:15.700 -- So, Alicia's fine.
00:24:19.700 -- Do we want to start just maybe just going down to listen and people can say if they have any ideas or suggestions for each one? And go down to line that way.
00:24:30.700 -- Okay.
00:24:32.700 -- First one, which is representative of WSAA.
00:24:39.700 -- Open floor.
00:24:42.700 -- Does anyone know anyone from that group? Have any suggestions for anyone from that group? That's the chair of the Alliance.
00:24:51.700 -- Good job.
00:24:52.700 -- Yeah.
00:24:53.700 -- And that's what I'm going to just throw out there is you could invite a specific person or you could just reach out to the president of the Alliance and say, will you give us somebody? No, no, no.
00:25:06.700 -- Good job.
00:25:07.700 -- John Allison.
00:25:08.700 -- Okay.
00:25:09.700 -- So, John Allison, W.S. And again, a suggestion could be just to cool to send the invitation to collectively then have to be a particular person if no one knows a particular person.
00:25:28.700 -- So, for two members of the Senate, I think that was just already talked about just Senate to the chairs of each, okay.
00:25:39.700 -- So, let's just get down in.
00:25:40.700 -- So, represent of Eastern Washington and P.O. To me, for either of the Eastern Washington slots, we should reach out to someone from Yakima because, and it's possible there's someone here from Yakima because at the end of the last case, at the end of the last commission's process, Yakima Airport had spoken up and said, we want to be involved.
00:26:14.700 -- But your charter says you have to be the answer, it has to be in Western Washington.
00:26:19.700 -- We are broader.
00:26:20.700 -- So, it seems like for one of those two spots bringing Yakima on board makes sense.
00:26:28.700 -- But there may be others that make sense too.
00:26:31.700 -- So, we have two spots.
00:26:35.700 -- Do you have a group in mind? Yeah.
00:26:38.700 -- Well, yeah, we got it.
00:26:39.700 -- How do we go? Make sure you think.
00:26:41.700 -- Yeah.
00:26:42.700 -- And, uh, this is several things that I do know to get in Yakima and buy.
00:26:49.700 -- So, this is the first time I've been working on.
00:26:58.700 -- And I think, Anne was right, but I think that this is the reason I think, in the very new book, that we should be able to do.
00:27:06.700 -- So, I can certainly go ahead and work on that.
00:27:11.700 -- So, that would be great.
00:27:13.700 -- I think when we... Here, I would like to speak.
00:27:18.700 -- Let's go ahead.
00:27:19.700 -- I think your question.
00:27:23.700 -- Jim is an extraordinarily experienced former airport professional.
00:27:33.700 -- Now, he is in charge of running the entire court.
00:27:36.700 -- But he's been very active in our state association.
00:27:42.700 -- And, you know, is again, a very well-seasoned leader.
00:27:48.700 -- And someone that if we could get him to participate, I would certainly ask the committee to think about him as well as the previous suggestion.
00:28:02.700 -- Yeah.
00:28:06.700 -- Yakima, to just be very upfront about it, is that their... Approach to the CAC, which was, you know, very late in the process.
00:28:24.700 -- And not something that, you know, was really able to be considered to me.
00:28:31.700 -- And I think we know where they stand on, you know, their particular feelings with regard to what they could offer.
00:28:39.700 -- But I get concerned about a single issue kind of representation where I think Mr.
00:28:39.700 -- Coons would potentially have a broader perspective, having worked in Walla Walla as well as Chelan.
00:28:56.700 -- So, just some things to consider with regard to the Eastern Washington.
00:29:00.700 -- Just to point a clarification, I'm not Walla Walla.
00:29:04.700 -- I'm not talking about Representative of the Eastern Washington MPO.
00:29:08.700 -- You're talking about the Representative of the Eastern Washington Regional Airport? Yeah, sorry.
00:29:13.700 -- I must have got ahead of the conversation there.
00:29:18.700 -- And when someone brought up Yakima, I thought we were on the issue of the Regional Airport.
00:29:25.700 -- So, I think there's a way to do both here.
00:29:25.700 -- I think for the MPO that could be from Yakima, but I absolutely agree with you.
00:29:31.700 -- If we're talking about Representative of Eastern Washington Regional Airport, I... Mr.
00:29:34.700 -- Coons is definitely... Thank you.
00:29:37.700 -- I agree with you 110% on that one.
00:29:39.700 -- Thank you.
00:29:39.700 -- I appreciate that.
00:29:41.700 -- The Eastern Washington Regional Airport, I... Mr.
00:29:44.700 -- Coons is definitely, you know, I agree with you 110% on that one.
00:29:48.700 -- Thank you.
00:29:48.700 -- I appreciate that.
00:29:51.700 -- One thing I would like to suggest, as we're kind of compiling this list, is that... What I plan to do after we've done all this is email the entire work group, just to make sure I got my notes correct and know who, and also make sure that I have the right contact information for each of these.
00:30:14.700 -- I would propose once we get through that part, like, extend an invitation to be considered.
00:30:22.700 -- So, it wouldn't be like an instant... Come on so that if we're inviting two or three different entities per, and then getting those responses back, and then as a group the next time we come together, we can vet that list together.
00:30:37.700 -- So, one, I like the idea.
00:30:43.700 -- We have to talk about use of email related to public meetings.
00:30:47.700 -- So, yeah.
00:30:50.700 -- And it was a technical question.
00:30:53.700 -- Are we going to get a post-odd or email addresses, or who are there a way we can get email addresses that can be... Since we're covered by the Public Records Act doing all this that are managed in accordance with the Public Records Act.
00:31:11.700 -- I'm going to have to get back to you on that.
00:31:14.700 -- All right, let's show your role to get them together.
00:31:16.700 -- Those together and have the groups send them out, or you get them together, and then hand them to watch.
00:31:20.700 -- And have them send the official emails up.
00:31:22.700 -- Second one.
00:31:23.700 -- Okay.
00:31:24.700 -- If you'd ask about that, Anne, I think that's the... That's the... And I think, Evan, that's kind of where you were going with that.
00:31:29.700 -- We got some names.
00:31:30.700 -- We give them to you.
00:31:31.700 -- You find out the right way to send those out, and then we'll see what they say back.
00:31:35.700 -- Both yes.
00:31:36.700 -- So, right foot.
00:31:37.700 -- So, at least right now, it will filter through staff to address the Public Records situation.
00:31:44.700 -- Evan, there's not a problem with us.
00:31:47.700 -- Like, I know Larry would... I think it would be willing to talk to Jim Coons just to give him a heads-up that something might be coming his way.
00:31:54.700 -- That's okay, right? Yeah.
00:31:56.700 -- Quick phone call.
00:31:57.700 -- I can call John Dobson.
00:31:58.700 -- You know, there are a couple different ways we do that.
00:32:01.700 -- Rob said he's willing to give us a couple names for Yakima groups, and we can do that too.
00:32:07.700 -- So, okay.
00:32:08.700 -- Can anyone... From one of the Yakima groups, set one, I'm happy to reach out to the Benton Franklin Council government as well.
00:32:14.700 -- If we need someone, I'm happy to do that.
00:32:17.700 -- But see what happens.
00:32:19.700 -- We got a few systems.
00:32:21.700 -- Yeah.
00:32:22.700 -- Yeah, the issue only arises when members of a board like this start, based... It's been construed if there's an email group that involves multiple members of the board that that is itself a public meeting.
00:32:33.700 -- And so... I thought it was a drop-down.
00:32:36.700 -- Yeah.
00:32:37.700 -- Yeah.
00:32:38.700 -- That's what I mean.
00:32:39.700 -- Yeah.
00:32:40.700 -- So... Yes.
00:32:42.700 -- On... What's the point? What's the point? What's the point? I was thinking about this.
00:32:47.700 -- Okay, with the rest of the group as far as trying to compile that, send those... We'll eventually send those invitations out, but it won't be like... If they say yes, they're instantly in.
00:32:55.700 -- It's yes, they would like to be considered.
00:32:58.700 -- And then when we come back together for our official meeting, that will be one of our agenda items is to review that list, have discussion, and then identify which ones we want to make the official invite to.
00:33:11.700 -- Yeah.
00:33:12.700 -- And when we went through these slides originally, the non-voting members, that doesn't have to go... Any further than that? That was good.
00:33:19.700 -- Are there any other questions? Nope.
00:33:21.700 -- Nope.
00:33:22.700 -- No.
00:33:23.700 -- No.
00:33:24.700 -- Nothing against the governor's office, but... Yeah.
00:33:27.700 -- That's my goal is that by telling how to make the meeting, we will have a list to discuss and choose from to extend those invitations.
00:33:34.700 -- Uh... Take secure.
00:33:38.700 -- No, it's not.
00:33:39.700 -- And we're down here.
00:33:40.700 -- Western Washington, MPO, and Western Washington Regional Airport.
00:33:44.700 -- I have a question.
00:33:45.700 -- I'm a student.
00:33:46.700 -- One, we had a lot of folks who visited us today from Thurston County area, and then also the Thurston Regional Planning Council got mentioned as we were discussing things as well.
00:33:57.700 -- I think there is a great concern that that area is not been fully represented in the past, and so that would be my suggestion to look at that.
00:34:10.699 -- So that way the folks who are here know they've got somebody that's on their side sitting in.
00:34:17.699 -- There's a lot of things that get us to make the information based on some of the things that area that those can train for our capacity, so it might be a good sense of expertise.
00:34:33.699 -- But we do some regional counseling.
00:34:36.699 -- That would be at least 10, one of the groups that could come talk to us if we didn't make them a non-voting member.
00:34:41.699 -- Absolutely.
00:34:42.699 -- They will.
00:34:43.699 -- Yeah.
00:34:44.699 -- This all I need for now.
00:34:49.699 -- So I'll, like I said, I'll send something out to the group.
00:34:52.699 -- It would probably be more like a, in a input survey form to put in these contacts that you guys are all thinking about with their information.
00:35:00.700 -- So it's just kind of all in one place.
00:35:03.700 -- Anybody have a suggestion for Western Washington Regional Airport? I'm always going to say thank you.
00:35:11.700 -- I know a guy at the same time.
00:35:13.700 -- From us.
00:35:14.700 -- I'm already email, Brett.
00:35:15.700 -- I'm not sure.
00:35:16.700 -- The standpoint that Olympia was mentioned.
00:35:19.700 -- Yeah.
00:35:20.700 -- And I know their stance on it, but I don't know if that's a good idea or not.
00:35:24.700 -- What is there? What? I believe it was that's not going to Olympia is what I, that's what I thought I read in the newspaper.
00:35:32.700 -- But it's just one of those that it's a community that's affected and it could give that community.
00:35:40.700 -- Maybe a voice.
00:35:41.700 -- I don't know.
00:35:42.700 -- It's just a thought.
00:35:43.700 -- I don't know if that's accurate or not.
00:35:44.700 -- Oh, it's just permissible.
00:35:46.700 -- We don't have to accept it.
00:35:48.700 -- Yeah.
00:35:49.700 -- The current airport manager of Olympia was also down at Kelso Longview before.
00:35:52.700 -- So he has, he's not just Olympia's center.
00:35:55.700 -- He's got experience in Washington State already.
00:36:00.700 -- Larry, are you ready to stand against the other Larry? Well, I think that's the potential representative.
00:36:06.700 -- They have done a number of studies that are very relevant to the work that we are going to pursue.
00:36:15.700 -- And I think the other part of that is that if I'm also not, I'm want to be very cautious about inviting groups on such as Thurston County.
00:36:29.700 -- We'll just use that example since that was one that was raised.
00:36:32.700 -- Or Olympia is another example because they have already, I think in many cases, taking a position.
00:36:39.700 -- Either publicly or even through electeds with regard to aviation capacity matters.
00:36:49.700 -- But I don't think that we would be in a good position to receive input with those types of declarations that have already been made.
00:37:05.700 -- So I want to be very careful about that.
00:37:07.700 -- I think Peter Sound Regional Council being a regional agency and having done work related to regional aviation capacity would be a very, very good resource for us to consider.
00:37:18.700 -- Having on the committee.
00:37:23.700 -- I tend to agree with what.
00:37:27.700 -- In the.
00:37:33.700 -- I tend to agree with what Larry said.
00:37:36.700 -- And I'm not sure that we're looking for.
00:37:39.700 -- I think in the.
00:37:41.700 -- The usual or people who are smart have.
00:37:45.700 -- Have expertise to bring to the table and could be a problem solver.
00:37:50.700 -- You know, I know that they represent the constituency.
00:37:53.700 -- I still think that this group would be better served having people acknowledge and a problem solving background is supposed to.
00:38:00.700 -- Of course, I think.
00:38:02.700 -- I think I might suggest.
00:38:05.700 -- I've heard that you know, a Bremerton is one of the three airports that's in the mix of.
00:38:11.700 -- I'm not exactly.
00:38:13.700 -- I can.
00:38:15.700 -- So.
00:38:17.700 -- I would find questions for watch that aviation.
00:38:21.700 -- policy.
00:38:22.700 -- You mentioned.
00:38:23.700 -- A person at pain field that will be a tenant right so.
00:38:28.700 -- These positions are representative.
00:38:30.700 -- Can it be a tenant of an airport if they're in the business of passenger operations or does it have to be a sponsor.
00:38:38.700 -- The airport sponsor is.
00:38:40.700 -- I forget about that.
00:38:42.700 -- I think it's.
00:38:44.700 -- It says a representative of the airport.
00:38:47.700 -- So I guess maybe it would be up to the airport to say do they represent us or not.
00:38:53.700 -- And while you're talking about that, I just heard a bunch of names of different western Washington airports.
00:39:00.700 -- I don't know what all of these.
00:39:05.700 -- I just heard a lot of discussion of a lot of different western Washington airports.
00:39:11.700 -- So I definitely want to make sure that you're not forgetting Boeing field in pain field.
00:39:17.700 -- Which is important parts of this.
00:39:21.700 -- And once again, we don't want to have we don't need to have every airport manager in Washington state on here.
00:39:29.700 -- But those perspectives of some of these airports are again ones that I would recommend inviting us as a means to talk about.
00:39:39.700 -- What your airport is planning to do in the future and that kind of thing.
00:39:43.700 -- So either on the group or not, they're going to be important.
00:39:48.700 -- And again, we're not making final decisions today.
00:39:52.700 -- We're just tossing out names and contacts and going from there.
00:39:58.700 -- So does anyone else have any more suggestions for any of the people to potentially reach out to you to fill the non voting member spots? I'm not email out to everybody and you can now have this list in there for people to submit names.
00:40:18.700 -- That's the thing about email is you can't email the whole group.
00:40:23.700 -- I will have staff email group to link to a form that they can fill out for all of this so that it all comes back.
00:40:32.700 -- Instead of having multiple emails going back before now.
00:40:35.700 -- When I say email, I am referring to staff.
00:40:37.700 -- Okay.
00:40:38.700 -- Okay.
00:40:39.700 -- Okay.
00:40:44.700 -- So we've covered the.
00:40:48.700 -- And then you're going to send us out or staff is going to send us out a list of the slots that are still open for voting members.
00:40:58.700 -- So right.
00:41:00.700 -- What was on the list and I will send that to you are the slots that are currently still open.
00:41:07.700 -- During lunch, I was asked to also send a list of if there are slots that there aren't any applications in the hop are already.
00:41:18.700 -- So that's a little bit different.
00:41:21.700 -- Okay.
00:41:26.700 -- Great.
00:41:28.700 -- Developing a charter, I should say developing a draft charter.
00:41:37.700 -- Draft for consideration at the next meeting by the membership and then whoever knew whatever new members we add by the next meeting.
00:41:45.700 -- I would like to know if there are other organizations within the state that have a charter similar to ours.
00:41:53.700 -- I mean, I think we don't need to start from scratch and develop our own.
00:41:57.700 -- Let's find one that works for somebody else doesn't even have to be for the state.
00:42:02.700 -- Somebody knows of a charter for an operation of a group similar to this.
00:42:06.700 -- Not exactly like this because there's never been one like this.
00:42:09.700 -- Probably never will be again.
00:42:11.700 -- So let's find something that's similar and then let us look at several of them if you can find them and send them to us from the state.
00:42:20.700 -- And then we can modify it.
00:42:23.700 -- We have an attorney on board.
00:42:25.700 -- I think he understands how to do this.
00:42:28.700 -- I hope and we can go from there.
00:42:32.700 -- I don't want to misrepresent but your roles here.
00:42:41.700 -- But is that something that you as the interim chair could do what ours is suggesting to look around and at least do the first step draft for us to talk about the next meeting? I thought about using as a, you know, I have not read in detail the CAC charter.
00:43:07.700 -- There's a lot of, looks like there's a lot of substance in there that our substance is different than their substance.
00:43:12.700 -- But as far as an outline of like points to hit like the headings.
00:43:19.700 -- And then we can look for other organizations like that who might have something similar.
00:43:24.700 -- I'm not certain what this might be.
00:43:28.700 -- You know, so it has an AD as.
00:43:34.700 -- But and then who else would want to work on that with me? See that question.
00:43:38.700 -- Would that have been coming up public meeting? I'm not good for public meeting.
00:43:45.700 -- But not so much with the substance.
00:43:48.700 -- But I could be a bounce off person for read throughs.
00:43:54.700 -- We're looking for multiples that we can look at and then work on together.
00:43:59.700 -- Is that what you are just because then we can, I've just found it helps to have something up on the wall that you can throw darts at then to try to have to me, chefs in the kitchen.
00:44:12.700 -- Because until we all vote on it and agree with it, a draft will remain a draft.
00:44:18.700 -- I have a new attic.
00:44:21.700 -- I have a new graphic.
00:44:22.700 -- It could be circulated on membership ahead of the next meeting.
00:44:26.700 -- That they can be edited at the meeting.
00:44:29.700 -- But first is starting from sort of a blank page at the next meeting.
00:44:34.700 -- But with examples.
00:44:37.700 -- Yes.
00:44:40.700 -- And that's a question also.
00:44:46.700 -- We're supposed to mention something about a December.
00:44:51.700 -- We owe somebody something in December.
00:44:55.700 -- We have a report.
00:45:02.700 -- We have a report.
00:45:07.700 -- There you go.
00:45:09.700 -- It would be short and sweet.
00:45:13.700 -- We at least have a draft.
00:45:16.700 -- If not, an approved.
00:45:19.700 -- We can do that.
00:45:22.700 -- Something about the military request to eliminate areas because of military incidents.
00:45:29.700 -- That was part of it.
00:45:34.700 -- Yeah.
00:45:35.700 -- About the December report.
00:45:39.700 -- Yeah.
00:45:40.700 -- Well, considering we're still short eight members and some of us have to be reactivated as it were.
00:45:47.700 -- As that date going to hold.
00:45:50.700 -- Would it be more important for them to get something short and sweet to the point like Ours is saying or are they going to say, OK, we got to load this thing up so we're going to push that date back.
00:45:58.700 -- What's your feeling? Your crystal ball.
00:46:02.700 -- This is a report.
00:46:04.700 -- Is this working? Can people hear as far as it? OK.
00:46:08.700 -- This is a report to the legislature.
00:46:11.700 -- So it's supposed to accomplish two things.
00:46:14.700 -- One, be the first report annual report to the legislature about what the work group's doing.
00:46:20.700 -- But then two specifically address military airports.
00:46:30.700 -- If you're planning on considering those and given that the group isn't necessarily considering building a new airport right now.
00:46:42.700 -- And I'm going to just peek behind the veil a little bit that particularly I think what the legislature is looking for is, say to Washington is no longer looking at taking over JBLM.
00:46:58.700 -- So.
00:47:01.700 -- So.
00:47:02.700 -- But I think if they're asking for a report and this isn't now a kind of short time frame.
00:47:08.700 -- Your report ends up being we understand the assignment and we're not ready to answer it now.
00:47:16.700 -- I mean, what are they going to do? Fire you.
00:47:19.700 -- You said that there are some better experts that have been fraud giving you a lot of military airspace to shoot and how do you get those? Yes.
00:47:27.700 -- That is the next meeting.
00:47:29.700 -- Absolutely.
00:47:30.700 -- We had an at the next meeting.
00:47:32.700 -- Yep.
00:47:33.700 -- And then at least whatever report we do write on December 1st can rely on these two events.
00:47:38.700 -- In fact, I think we've already done.
00:47:39.700 -- It's great.
00:47:40.700 -- I think we're here.
00:47:41.700 -- I'll make a pitch to you.
00:47:44.700 -- As far as your charter.
00:47:47.700 -- Let's talk our charter.
00:47:48.700 -- I should say we're talking about.
00:47:51.700 -- I'll work with you on a charter if or if works with me to help find examples throughout the country or world that have done similar.
00:48:01.700 -- talk to find some boiler plates that have been done.
00:48:04.700 -- Take those boiler plates and adjust them to what we think we're doing as a draft.
00:48:09.700 -- Do you work with me on that? I'll work with Evan on that.
00:48:11.700 -- Just the same.
00:48:13.700 -- You know, we have a couple of years ago.
00:48:17.700 -- The one that I have now, the one that I chair there now, I'll be there next week.
00:48:22.700 -- But I don't think the charter of that would apply to here.
00:48:26.700 -- I will get it and look at what I think it'd be more like this is the study that I chair down there.
00:48:32.700 -- Several years ago, which looked to use the various airports within the county.
00:48:37.700 -- And that would be more relevant to what we're doing.
00:48:41.700 -- Then the one that's in San Diego, there is an advisory committee that is.
00:48:47.700 -- It's made by law when they decided to have the airport separate from the port.
00:48:52.700 -- And it has a citizens on it and it's again like this.
00:48:56.700 -- It names who should not names the person, but the organizations that should be on it.
00:49:01.700 -- So that charter may be something along.
00:49:04.700 -- I will get that because I'll be there chairing the meeting next Wednesday.
00:49:08.700 -- So I'll find out.
00:49:11.700 -- Anybody else want to join the charter drafting support group? It's like, yeah.
00:49:26.700 -- Okay.
00:49:31.700 -- I think we should put off discussion of scope of work and consult other than asking staff to forward the draft until we have a full more representative community.
00:49:54.700 -- Because I think there's some, at least I think rather there's some.
00:50:02.700 -- I want to have the consultant to the right amount of work and not too much.
00:50:06.700 -- And the first is the actual appointed members of the committee.
00:50:11.700 -- So I don't know if anybody else worked with the consultant.
00:50:14.700 -- I haven't.
00:50:15.700 -- But I've seen processes where there was a board and a consultant.
00:50:21.700 -- The consultant had to be kind of the driver.
00:50:26.700 -- Has anybody else had to kind of ban on the board like this with a consultant? I'm not.
00:50:32.700 -- I don't know if I've worked with consultants.
00:50:34.700 -- I mean, the RFQ, P will tell them what we want.
00:50:40.700 -- And that's the least of my concerns on this board.
00:50:44.700 -- I mean, we got to get it right.
00:50:46.700 -- That's a big concern, but working with the consultant.
00:50:49.700 -- You pick the right one.
00:50:50.700 -- It's easy.
00:50:51.700 -- You pick the wrong one.
00:50:52.700 -- You have your own sense.
00:50:53.700 -- On the study we did at San Diego to look at the use of the 16 airports in the county.
00:51:01.700 -- The consultant really, I chaired it, but the consultant really ran the meetings and got the information that the committee wanted and presented it back to the committee.
00:51:12.700 -- And they were really the organizers of the presentations when we went to it.
00:51:17.700 -- But they were a major part of it.
00:51:20.700 -- They didn't.
00:51:21.700 -- We told them what we wanted to see.
00:51:23.700 -- And then they put it together and brought it back to us.
00:51:26.700 -- So they were integral part.
00:51:28.700 -- And again, I'd like to see what RFQ is what the end is talking about sending out.
00:51:35.700 -- I think the qualifications aren't as much as once we decide what it is we want to see their request for the project.
00:51:41.700 -- That's when the really the rubber meets the road.
00:51:45.700 -- When we tell them, okay, here's what it is.
00:51:47.700 -- And then let them decide on how they're going to bid on that.
00:51:51.700 -- And if I'm not mistaken, we're in a state organization.
00:51:55.700 -- We're not going to just be able to pick one without having a competitive bid.
00:51:59.700 -- Am I correct? I think you can use price as a driver.
00:52:03.700 -- No, no, no.
00:52:04.700 -- Qualification.
00:52:05.700 -- Yeah.
00:52:06.700 -- Qualification.
00:52:07.700 -- Yeah, qualification.
00:52:08.700 -- But the request for qualifications is different for requests for the proposal.
00:52:14.700 -- You've got to see if they're qualified to even make a proposal under this way.
00:52:18.700 -- The way I've always done it.
00:52:19.700 -- I thought the quality put out there.
00:52:23.700 -- You get your scope.
00:52:28.700 -- In the RFQ, they tell you what their qualifications are and if they can meet.
00:52:33.700 -- Same stuff.
00:52:34.700 -- Then you make the selection based off of their proposal.
00:52:38.700 -- You can have an interview process.
00:52:40.700 -- The whole thing.
00:52:41.700 -- I'm not sure if they'd lower what you do that.
00:52:43.700 -- It could be.
00:52:44.700 -- I just can't stop.
00:52:45.700 -- Yeah.
00:52:46.700 -- Yeah.
00:52:47.700 -- The Washington State process is pretty much what Buck just talked about.
00:52:52.700 -- So, or as I agree with you because I've worked in a lot of different states and then the RFQ slash RFP process.
00:52:58.700 -- But in Washington, you will be making a selection from an RFQ.
00:53:03.700 -- Yeah.
00:53:04.700 -- Anyone else want to talk about the consultant issued all? Do we have a consensus essentially, tabling that issue until further meeting? Mr.
00:53:24.700 -- Chair? I love calling you that.
00:53:30.700 -- Just so that everyone is aware we do have two consultants that are joining today because they were interested in seeing this process and what you were all talking about.
00:53:39.700 -- So, there are already some that are interested and you know who you are.
00:53:45.700 -- And you send it out of the draft of an RFQ.
00:53:48.700 -- Yes.
00:53:49.700 -- And I will be sharing it with all of you.
00:53:53.700 -- Okay.
00:53:54.700 -- So, it's a lot of nods around the room.
00:53:56.700 -- Okay.
00:53:57.700 -- I have to.
00:53:58.700 -- We're not.
00:53:59.700 -- This isn't being transcribed so I don't have to sell it.
00:54:02.700 -- You have to talk to the records.
00:54:05.700 -- So, we're going to move on from the consultant issue.
00:54:12.700 -- And that brings us to the next step slide which is not.
00:54:19.700 -- Okay.
00:54:20.700 -- We already did that.
00:54:23.700 -- That's pretty much it.
00:54:24.700 -- That's what we're just talking about.
00:54:26.700 -- Right.
00:54:27.700 -- This is the next step.
00:54:28.700 -- Right.
00:54:29.700 -- Picking the next meeting date.
00:54:32.700 -- Go one more.
00:54:37.700 -- And I don't think we can do that until we've got appointees.
00:54:40.700 -- Do we have the new batch for appointees? Right.
00:54:45.700 -- That's what it's kind of a word awaiting until things can fill.
00:54:52.700 -- Which.
00:54:53.700 -- This room is said in the chat.
00:54:55.700 -- Should we like to vice chair and the event the chair isn't available? We have.
00:55:05.700 -- I mean, the thing is we have.
00:55:06.700 -- Yeah.
00:55:07.700 -- We're in limbo.
00:55:08.700 -- What is this? We're in limbo.
00:55:10.700 -- We're.
00:55:12.700 -- The interim chairs to help us bridge this gap until.
00:55:16.700 -- So we can get some balls rolling until we get everybody sat.
00:55:21.700 -- We're not going to know when everybody sat.
00:55:23.700 -- I'm assuming.
00:55:24.700 -- And it's going to or excuse me.
00:55:27.700 -- Christina will probably send out another email like this one saying let's meet on this day.
00:55:32.700 -- Or this is the day the meeting is.
00:55:35.700 -- And I think we kind of have to have it be driven how it is until we get the team, the process, the individuals lined up.
00:55:45.700 -- Then we start running the show.
00:55:47.700 -- I think we should somewhat have it.
00:55:50.700 -- Until it's we don't know when these people are coming on and it's just we're here trying to do stuff and we don't even have everyone.
00:55:57.700 -- And it's just.
00:55:58.700 -- I think we should set a meeting date at least so that any new appointees.
00:56:06.700 -- And I think we should set a meeting date at least so that any new appointees.
00:56:14.700 -- I think it's best to get these filled where it comes clearer right now.
00:56:38.700 -- It's not clear.
00:56:39.700 -- There's no clue when the governor is going to fill this unless we say we want to.
00:56:43.700 -- We want to move forward with or without these new members which I don't know how much we can move forward.
00:56:51.700 -- I think we should set a date so that hopefully that will help the governor's office.
00:56:58.700 -- We're in on say look we're having our next meeting on October whatever.
00:57:02.700 -- And by this time we want to be able to know based on that staff letting us know who's apply or how many people are still open.
00:57:11.700 -- So I think the date could drive the action as opposed to waiting for the action to drive the date.
00:57:19.700 -- And we have the December 1 deadline in this dash to at least issue some sort of report.
00:57:25.700 -- So I think that's the way to go just to work backwards from that sense.
00:57:28.700 -- Okay we know we have a set date that we're planning towards.
00:57:31.700 -- So then back is for the action of the other things.
00:57:34.700 -- Well and also we can talk philosophically.
00:57:37.700 -- I mean it's the group want to meet every 60 days, every 90 days, every 30 days.
00:57:42.700 -- Before we even pick a date because you're right we've got we owe somebody we owe somebody something in December.
00:57:49.700 -- So we're saying that to work so that I may be able to check for it according to at least for now.
00:57:56.700 -- So we want to now be accurate.
00:58:00.700 -- So I think that's super fine.
00:58:04.700 -- I'm sure that it does have children but we can have kids in the core by the soul.
00:58:09.700 -- It's something that makes sense for people to be.
00:58:12.700 -- Maybe.
00:58:13.700 -- So like early October? Yeah.
00:58:17.700 -- My biggest concern is just we're all busy.
00:58:20.700 -- Yeah.
00:58:21.700 -- These people are all busy and making sure we can actually do something.
00:58:25.700 -- And being said sitting here and looking at each other.
00:58:28.700 -- Where's everybody at? That's my biggest concern.
00:58:31.700 -- Making these meetings worthwhile with substance and accomplishing things instead of not and being unsure.
00:58:39.700 -- That's my biggest.
00:58:41.700 -- I don't want to waste my time or anyone else's time.
00:58:44.700 -- That's not what you can tell.
00:58:49.700 -- So part.
00:58:54.700 -- No, I was about to ask if that was a motion.
00:58:57.700 -- But then you're.
00:58:58.700 -- I was just asking normally.
00:58:59.700 -- He is almost a number of dollars.
00:59:01.700 -- He doesn't give up.
00:59:02.700 -- You know a solid answer about this.
00:59:05.700 -- Because you know we're talking.
00:59:07.700 -- Excuse me.
00:59:08.700 -- Yeah.
00:59:09.700 -- We've been shopping in Larry's seat and go to NC.
00:59:11.700 -- Yeah.
00:59:12.700 -- So as everything's everybody here is alluding to, you know, we all have a busy life.
00:59:17.700 -- We're volunteering our time.
00:59:18.700 -- So, you know, I'd like to have, you know, some serious feedback about what the target data is to fill the rest of the vacancies so we can go ahead and do the work that we're interested in doing.
00:59:32.700 -- There was a.
00:59:36.700 -- We don't have a full board yet.
00:59:39.700 -- There's your report.
00:59:41.700 -- I mean, I.
00:59:42.700 -- There was the Spokane.
00:59:47.700 -- There.
00:59:48.700 -- There.
00:59:49.700 -- There.
00:59:50.700 -- There.
00:59:51.700 -- There.
00:59:52.700 -- The.
00:59:53.700 -- The reality is we don't control that process.
00:59:56.700 -- And it will either happen or not happen based on whatever.
01:00:02.700 -- You know, sense of, of urgency that the governor's office has to address this.
01:00:08.700 -- I would just caution us to not qualify when we're going to meet based on what, whether or not we have a fully constituted board.
01:00:18.700 -- We will need to move forward at some point.
01:00:22.700 -- And it may or may not be with a fully constituted board, but that one is above our ability to, you know, to, to direct.
01:00:31.700 -- So I would, I would just set a meeting that we think is a reasonable time for us to meet to continue our work.
01:00:38.700 -- And certainly, you know, we want to advocate as strongly as we can for the board to be completely appointed as soon as possible.
01:00:49.700 -- But at the same time, not controlling that.
01:00:52.700 -- I think we just need to establish a meeting date that we're comfortable meeting regardless of what the status of the appointments are to the board.
01:01:02.700 -- Is that a motion.
01:01:05.700 -- It's that one comfortable meeting regardless of what the status of the appointment is hard to board.
01:01:12.700 -- Is that a motion.
01:01:15.700 -- I would say that a requirement to have a fully constituted board.
01:01:21.700 -- I don't want to attach, I'm against the patchy meeting that you, a requirement to have a fully constituted board.
01:01:32.700 -- I agree because even if we have every member identified the chances of getting everybody at any specific date was zero.
01:01:42.700 -- We are not going to ever do it.
01:01:44.700 -- So, pick a date, we'll get the motion we can, and we'll have a bigger number than we have today.
01:01:49.700 -- I want to make a motion, but I have a question, whether today was a third day meeting, third day meetings, make more sense of the Friday meetings, make more sense for both for us and for staff.
01:02:02.700 -- I mean, if you want to have a good Eastern Washington, I'm happy with Friday meetings.
01:02:10.700 -- I mean, this is a, we're traveling, I think, having some before coming to Western Washington, it's fair to have it during the work week for me.
01:02:21.700 -- The time doesn't matter.
01:02:21.700 -- You want to have a morning, afternoon, evening, I'm open, but I prefer Friday to be a no one.
01:02:28.700 -- I'm good with Mondays, as well.
01:02:30.700 -- I would like the introduction that we said for the next meeting for our members.
01:02:47.700 -- Everyone get you counted.
01:02:48.700 -- There's a second motion.
01:02:52.700 -- Is that correct? Is there a second to the motion for an October 3rd meeting? No, that was the second.
01:03:02.700 -- Okay.
01:03:03.700 -- Okay.
01:03:04.700 -- So, let's discuss a motion to meet on that Thursday October 3rd as we all scroll through our meeting.
01:03:12.700 -- The phone calendars.
01:03:13.700 -- Meeting date, and then that will give us again the flexibility to move off of that if for some reason, we think it's an invest interest to do so.
01:03:24.700 -- So, if we pick the motion was to set the meeting date tentatively as October 3rd, that would be acceptable if others agree.
01:03:35.700 -- I can amend that.
01:03:36.700 -- Is that the tentatively as October 3rd, that would be acceptable if others agree to.
01:03:44.700 -- I can amend that motion.
01:03:46.700 -- How do tentatively meet a date of October 3rd? So, my only thought on that is I don't think we can have a tentative meeting because then we can't have a vote when we're not in session to then adopt it as the actual meeting.
01:03:58.700 -- So, we should probably adopt it as the actual meeting date and then change it necessary by some other means.
01:04:05.700 -- Because it can't never move from tentative to actual and give public notice of the public meeting.
01:04:09.700 -- So, the meeting has to be publicized.
01:04:11.700 -- Yeah.
01:04:13.700 -- Oh, okay.
01:04:14.700 -- So, do we have to decide the dates of our meetings? Yes.
01:04:25.700 -- We have the work, but I think that also the part of the meeting is the opening meeting.
01:04:33.700 -- The meetings can be changed.
01:04:35.700 -- They just need public notice.
01:04:37.700 -- I don't remember in that veto section three if there was a that could be shot me down a certain basis Yeah Is there anybody You just say we would meet that really first Thursday or Friday We have that will be part of the charter that we work on at the next meeting so this so this is kind of as a one-off Until we've determined through our charter process how often we're meeting is October 3rd and no go for anybody for sure I have one caveat today.
01:05:20.940 -- I was my caveat would be because we are statewide.
01:05:20.940 -- We also need to consider where In addition to the day So October 3rd might work well for someone on this side maybe not on the other side.
01:05:31.860 -- I think we need to I'm down with that So I mean so I'll say so we need to factor in the location with the date That we too so October 3rd sound like it's working for most, but I think we need to determine to Are we trying to come back here? We try to go on to each side Are you offering a an amendment to the motion for October 30? Yes, yes, do you want to express violation or maybe we should actually What is a discussion question? The wash dog can probably free up for us around the state Do you have anything that's well, I know there's There's a spot one at you that we could use We can we can really go anywhere like you said wash dot and the state has You know meeting locations we selected this one Because we know that all the technology works with the the people that are recording that and everything or you know theoretically So that's what we if you just give us a location we can come up with facility that will meet our needs The cascades, but east of east of here Something like closer up to North Bend that kind of area The state fire Marshall do you have any input on that? I guess For just the sake of being easy can we just the next one do it the same do it here And get the people here We give the general direction of where we want it like the question Washington will be a Then they can figure out where where we go Amendment to the ocean to add locations of the sponsored amendment to the motion Do you want to? So many to amend the initial motion to add location General to the date suggestion I'll go on our third When at you between somewhere between one at you and don't water And how do we say that to keep it simple? Yeah Western Washington I'm but that bucks willing to drive from Tri-Cities I'm certainly willing to drive from Moses Lake if you want to keep it simple and just do it here again I'm okay Larry would I know would fly in the sea tack and come down and one of us could even give him a ride so I'm okay with being in the exact same place to just to make it happen Okay, so We should you're motion is to add it here again Okay Friendly and then into the motion for the October 3rd meeting 75 maker of that motion Yes, yes, okay All right any further discussion on motion All right Call vote all favor of October 3rd meeting Thursday here again All in favor say I opposed Carries unanimously October 3rd here was Larry's a close or was it Okay, and then as far as setting the agenda for that meeting Kid if you have a contact with the military airspace people can we ask them if they can come in absolutely And we'll have a draft charter review Hopefully some non voting members be interested to fight and there's anything else we want to add sort of Attenitive agenda for October 3rd public comment Our few for It's all yeah, at least the stats Because we want to if we want to get the charter done that meeting I don't want to load it up So I Should take more Is there anything else we want to talk about Okay Sure What Watch and for the Washington Public Information Office, with regard to that, I don't believe you had to remember this work, but you were a chair in making a statement to be at current high with regard to which questions they might have or probably would have a discussion with it.
01:12:22.000 -- Okay.
01:12:23.000 -- Okay.
01:12:26.000 -- Okay.
01:12:27.000 -- Anyone else want to talk about that? Is I in the interview with that? Okay.
01:12:32.000 -- Okay.
01:12:34.000 -- Mr.
01:12:34.000 -- Chair, not connected with that, but I do have another comment for the group.
01:12:38.000 -- I just wanted to share with everybody that we got a message from Zoom land from Representative Dent, who is one of the drafters of this legislation, and he says, great meeting everyone.
01:12:51.000 -- Thank you for your enthusiasm and willingness to tackle a difficult issue.
01:12:57.000 -- So your good work is already being recognized.
01:13:00.000 -- Thank you, sir.
01:13:03.000 -- All right.
01:13:06.000 -- Anything else we want to talk about? I have already said that I have a link to the most suggestions.
01:13:14.000 -- So hopefully they get that out to you, relatively soon.
01:13:18.000 -- All right.
01:13:19.000 -- Is there a motion to adjourn? So move.
01:13:21.000 -- All right.
01:13:23.000 -- All right.
01:13:24.000 -- All right.
01:13:25.000 -- All right.
01:13:26.000 -- Of course, we'll do a second.
01:13:28.000 -- All right.
01:13:29.000 -- I don't.
01:13:30.000 -- Who was there? I'll be back.
01:13:32.000 -- I'll leave so few seconds.
01:13:33.000 -- I'll just go up and go up and go up and go up.
01:13:36.000 -- All right.
01:13:37.000 -- All right.
01:13:38.000 -- All right.
01:13:39.000 -- All right.
01:13:40.000 -- Of course.
01:13:41.000 -- We'll do a second.
01:13:42.000 -- Thank you.
01:13:43.000 -- Thank you everybody.
01:13:44.000 -- Thank you.
01:13:45.000 -- Thank you.
01:13:46.000 -- Thank you all.
01:13:47.000 -- Yeah.